Comments on: The Meeting of the Anderson Chapter of the Erskine Alumni Association http://www.arptalk.org/2011/10/08/the-meeting-of-the-anderson-chapter-of-the-erskine-alumni-association/ Just another WordPress weblog Thu, 17 May 2012 23:24:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Harris Murray http://www.arptalk.org/2011/10/08/the-meeting-of-the-anderson-chapter-of-the-erskine-alumni-association/#comment-7055 Harris Murray Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:35:25 +0000 http://www.arptalk.org/?p=1544#comment-7055 Mr. Wilson, I find it interesting that one day my comment was on ARPTalk and now I cannot find it. Harris Murray (Murray is my married name) Class of 1977 Mr. Wilson, I find it interesting that one day my comment was on ARPTalk and now I cannot find it.

Harris Murray (Murray is my married name)
Class of 1977

]]> By: Charles W. Wilson http://www.arptalk.org/2011/10/08/the-meeting-of-the-anderson-chapter-of-the-erskine-alumni-association/#comment-7052 Charles W. Wilson Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:28:26 +0000 http://www.arptalk.org/?p=1544#comment-7052 Dear Ms. Karen Pritchard, On the one hand, you respond slowly, and, then, on the other hand, you respond so quickly. Which is it, girlfriend? Are you playing coy with me? You must want to engage me in conversation after all! Go to 11/2/11, and you should find a copy of the e-mail I sent you. When we are suspicious that someone is attempting to make anonymous comments, we send that person an e-mail to find out if the address that has been given is legitimate. I have taken the liberty of forwarding a copy of my e-mail to you. I don’t want you to think that I’m lying to you. Now, the fact that the editor of ARPTalk is not “nice,” is not something new to anyone. The Editor of ARPTalk is provocative. The Editor has had enough of the ARP culture of niceness that has permitted outrageous infidelity at Erskine and in the church. BTW, if you don’t like what I say or how I say it, you don’t have to post on ARPTalk. The issue is not whether I’m provocative or not. The issue – the major reason that ARPTalk exists – is to be a voice crying out against the unfaithfulness of multiple administrations and administrators at Erskine College and Seminary who have both sought to thwart and refused to embrace and implement the Christian faith, mission, and purpose that they vowed to uphold when they were hired. At stake is not whether I’m nice or not but whether I have spoken the truth regarding the things I have reported. No one has been able to demonstrate that I have misrepresented the truth. The fact remains that highhanded infidelity and unfaithfulness have been the order of the day at Erskine for the past 40 years. You say that as a Christian you are pained that I’m not nice. Well, that’s nothing but sentimental and sanctimonious nonsense. The unfaithfulness of Erskine C&S as a Christian institution is well documented. That the college and seminary have been at odds with the evangelical faith of the ARP Church is a long story of woe. This has even been celebrated by some in Due West. It has even been pointed out that recruiters at the college have practiced “bait-and-switch” when they have represented the school as “Christian” to prospective students who were evangelical Christians. Of a truth, in the last 40 years, EC&S has not been an incubator for Christian discipleship; rather, the school has been a breeding ground for attacks on and ridicule of and denial of and the dumbing down of Christian verities and the propagating of infidelity. If the Facebook alums are an indicator of what an Erskine grad is, an Erskine grad is not only not a friend of the evangelical Christian faith but a person who has no idea what the evangelical Christian faith is. Are there exceptions? Of course! However, as a general rule, my observation stands on the basis of the testimonies of Erskine grads on AFE and AFIE. Now then, where is your outrage against this? Are you straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel? What does a camel taste like? Regards, Chuck Wilson ARPTalk Dear Ms. Karen Pritchard,

On the one hand, you respond slowly, and, then, on the other hand, you respond so quickly. Which is it, girlfriend? Are you playing coy with me? You must want to engage me in conversation after all!

Go to 11/2/11, and you should find a copy of the e-mail I sent you. When we are suspicious that someone is attempting to make anonymous comments, we send that person an e-mail to find out if the address that has been given is legitimate. I have taken the liberty of forwarding a copy of my e-mail to you. I don’t want you to think that I’m lying to you.

Now, the fact that the editor of ARPTalk is not “nice,” is not something new to anyone. The Editor of ARPTalk is provocative. The Editor has had enough of the ARP culture of niceness that has permitted outrageous infidelity at Erskine and in the church. BTW, if you don’t like what I say or how I say it, you don’t have to post on ARPTalk.

The issue is not whether I’m provocative or not. The issue – the major reason that ARPTalk exists – is to be a voice crying out against the unfaithfulness of multiple administrations and administrators at Erskine College and Seminary who have both sought to thwart and refused to embrace and implement the Christian faith, mission, and purpose that they vowed to uphold when they were hired. At stake is not whether I’m nice or not but whether I have spoken the truth regarding the things I have reported. No one has been able to demonstrate that I have misrepresented the truth. The fact remains that highhanded infidelity and unfaithfulness have been the order of the day at Erskine for the past 40 years.

You say that as a Christian you are pained that I’m not nice. Well, that’s nothing but sentimental and sanctimonious nonsense. The unfaithfulness of Erskine C&S as a Christian institution is well documented. That the college and seminary have been at odds with the evangelical faith of the ARP Church is a long story of woe. This has even been celebrated by some in Due West. It has even been pointed out that recruiters at the college have practiced “bait-and-switch” when they have represented the school as “Christian” to prospective students who were evangelical Christians. Of a truth, in the last 40 years, EC&S has not been an incubator for Christian discipleship; rather, the school has been a breeding ground for attacks on and ridicule of and denial of and the dumbing down of Christian verities and the propagating of infidelity. If the Facebook alums are an indicator of what an Erskine grad is, an Erskine grad is not only not a friend of the evangelical Christian faith but a person who has no idea what the evangelical Christian faith is. Are there exceptions? Of course! However, as a general rule, my observation stands on the basis of the testimonies of Erskine grads on AFE and AFIE. Now then, where is your outrage against this? Are you straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel? What does a camel taste like?

Regards,

Chuck Wilson
ARPTalk

]]> By: Karen Pritchard http://www.arptalk.org/2011/10/08/the-meeting-of-the-anderson-chapter-of-the-erskine-alumni-association/#comment-7049 Karen Pritchard Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:47:09 +0000 http://www.arptalk.org/?p=1544#comment-7049 Yes - it took me a while to answer, I am not a person wedded to the internet. I'm sorry but I've just searched back through that email account and see no email from you even when specifically searching for "test" in the subject line. I know that you don't need or probably want to communicate with me in that I am being critical of your blogging behavior. You did not engage me directly but via this forum you have engaged the public and I have responded in kind. As a Christian it pains me to see someone professing a belief in Christ and yet behaving in a way so contrary to the teachings of the Bible. As I said, I will continue to pray for you. That I believe is one thing we can all agreed on - prayer is the manna that sustains our souls. Yes – it took me a while to answer, I am not a person wedded to the internet.

I’m sorry but I’ve just searched back through that email account and see no email from you even when specifically searching for “test” in the subject line.

I know that you don’t need or probably want to communicate with me in that I am being critical of your blogging behavior. You did not engage me directly but via this forum you have engaged the public and I have responded in kind.

As a Christian it pains me to see someone professing a belief in Christ and yet behaving in a way so contrary to the teachings of the Bible. As I said, I will continue to pray for you. That I believe is one thing we can all agreed on – prayer is the manna that sustains our souls.

]]> By: Charles W. Wilson http://www.arptalk.org/2011/10/08/the-meeting-of-the-anderson-chapter-of-the-erskine-alumni-association/#comment-7048 Charles W. Wilson Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:10:37 +0000 http://www.arptalk.org/?p=1544#comment-7048 Dear Ms. Karen Pritchard, Well, thank you for responding back. It took a while, didn’t it? Indeed, you are an Erskine grad. I’m delighted that your experience was positive. I’m also delighted to know that my expression “people who know people” gave you a smile. Don’t make too much of it. It’s simply a metaphor for the search process. FYI, I have sent you an email. I believe “pcolarunnergirl” is the address. Indeed, it’s a valid address. Didn’t you notice the little word “test”? Sorry, but I don’t have a driving need to communicate with you. You were the one who engaged me. BTW, if you want to communicate with me privately, my e-mail address is plastered all over ARPTalk from stem-to-stern. Nevertheless, here it is: wilson6114@bellsouth.net. One more point. I notice that you haven’t addressed anything in the article of this thread. Regards, Chuck Wilson ARPTalk Dear Ms. Karen Pritchard,

Well, thank you for responding back. It took a while, didn’t it?

Indeed, you are an Erskine grad. I’m delighted that your experience was positive.

I’m also delighted to know that my expression “people who know people” gave you a smile. Don’t make too much of it. It’s simply a metaphor for the search process.

FYI, I have sent you an email. I believe “pcolarunnergirl” is the address. Indeed, it’s a valid address. Didn’t you notice the little word “test”?

Sorry, but I don’t have a driving need to communicate with you. You were the one who engaged me. BTW, if you want to communicate with me privately, my e-mail address is plastered all over ARPTalk from stem-to-stern. Nevertheless, here it is: wilson6114@bellsouth.net.

One more point. I notice that you haven’t addressed anything in the article of this thread.

Regards,

Chuck Wilson
ARPTalk

]]> By: Karen Pritchard http://www.arptalk.org/2011/10/08/the-meeting-of-the-anderson-chapter-of-the-erskine-alumni-association/#comment-7047 Karen Pritchard Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:18:59 +0000 http://www.arptalk.org/?p=1544#comment-7047 I'm a graduate of Erskine College. But I am not a person known to "people who know people". I'm not even sure I would want to be known to "people who know people"! I had a wonderful experience at Erskine College. It was a time of great learning and more importantly a time where my faith could be strengthened. If you want to talk with me, please send me an email (you site requires one). It is an email address that I check once or twice a week. I make it a point not to use my regular email address on websites that request them in case they end up being used for advertising or hacked for spam. I've looked through that email inbox and you haven't attempted to contact me directly. Wouldn't that have been simpler than talking to "people who know people". Sorry but that phrase is just too funny. I’m a graduate of Erskine College. But I am not a person known to “people who know people”. I’m not even sure I would want to be known to “people who know people”! I had a wonderful experience at Erskine College. It was a time of great learning and more importantly a time where my faith could be strengthened.

If you want to talk with me, please send me an email (you site requires one). It is an email address that I check once or twice a week. I make it a point not to use my regular email address on websites that request them in case they end up being used for advertising or hacked for spam.

I’ve looked through that email inbox and you haven’t attempted to contact me directly. Wouldn’t that have been simpler than talking to “people who know people”. Sorry but that phrase is just too funny.

]]> By: Harris Murray http://www.arptalk.org/2011/10/08/the-meeting-of-the-anderson-chapter-of-the-erskine-alumni-association/#comment-7044 Harris Murray Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:51:27 +0000 http://www.arptalk.org/?p=1544#comment-7044 RE: A young lady named Tobe Frierson, an Erskine employee who works in recruiting and who was also a part of Mr. Ferguson’s team that evening, explained the merits of the consultant. She noted that the “old” system was “broken” and that this arrangement was working very well. By golly gee, the old system worked for years. Erskine alumni gave and gave and gave......recommended Erskine to young people......were the source of many a new student. Today, I am one alumna who has discontinued giving and is discouraging young people from attending Erskine. The old system is not working because of the destructive forces undermining the Erskine College I knew and loved. It is a sad day for an institution that has produced thousands of deeply committed Christians who are at work in their respective churches.......they are not totally reformed, but always in the process of growing in Christ. As far as the EC Foundation, there would be no need for such an organization were it not for the acts that caused it to come in to existence. Harris Murray Class of 1977 RE: A young lady named Tobe Frierson, an Erskine employee who works in recruiting and who was also a part of Mr. Ferguson’s team that evening, explained the merits of the consultant. She noted that the “old” system was “broken” and that this arrangement was working very well.

By golly gee, the old system worked for years. Erskine alumni gave and gave and gave……recommended Erskine to young people……were the source of many a new student.

Today, I am one alumna who has discontinued giving and is discouraging young people from attending Erskine. The old system is not working because of the destructive forces undermining the Erskine College I knew and loved. It is a sad day for an institution that has produced thousands of deeply committed Christians who are at work in their respective churches…….they are not totally reformed, but always in the process of growing in Christ.

As far as the EC Foundation, there would be no need for such an organization were it not for the acts that caused it to come in to existence.

Harris Murray
Class of 1977

]]> By: Charles W. Wilson http://www.arptalk.org/2011/10/08/the-meeting-of-the-anderson-chapter-of-the-erskine-alumni-association/#comment-6984 Charles W. Wilson Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:02:14 +0000 http://www.arptalk.org/?p=1544#comment-6984 Dear Ms. Karen Pritchard, Thank you for your comments. BTW, it has just struck me that I don’t you. I have inquired of a number of people who know people, and they don’t seem to know a “Karen Pritchard.” You seem to be a mystery lady. In the past, we have had a number of people use false identities. And, as you know, that’s simply not good form. I’m sure “Karen Pritchard” is your real identify; however, as I said, we have been hit with a number of false posters. I’m sure you don’t mind helping in this matter. Tell us a little about yourself. So that you understand clearly: I’m not going to carry on conversations with someone who hides behind a false identify. Regards, Chuck Wilson ARPTalk Dear Ms. Karen Pritchard,

Thank you for your comments.

BTW, it has just struck me that I don’t you. I have inquired of a number of people who know people, and they don’t seem to know a “Karen Pritchard.” You seem to be a mystery lady.

In the past, we have had a number of people use false identities. And, as you know, that’s simply not good form.

I’m sure “Karen Pritchard” is your real identify; however, as I said, we have been hit with a number of false posters. I’m sure you don’t mind helping in this matter. Tell us a little about yourself.

So that you understand clearly: I’m not going to carry on conversations with someone who hides behind a false identify.

Regards,

Chuck Wilson
ARPTalk

]]> By: Karen Pritchard http://www.arptalk.org/2011/10/08/the-meeting-of-the-anderson-chapter-of-the-erskine-alumni-association/#comment-6962 Karen Pritchard Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:01:33 +0000 http://www.arptalk.org/?p=1544#comment-6962 Mr. Wilson, Slander is a malicious or false statement. You implied that Mrs. West was in need of Alcoholics Anonymous. That is indeed slanderous. Perhaps it does not meet the legal definition but it meets the common usage. I'm sorry but I'm unsure how my comment is hypocritical or feigned. I realize you believe you are being humorous in a sarcastic fashion. It does not translate well. This is particularly true when in one area you accuse a person of public drunkenness and then later imply someone is in need of AA. I honestly find little of your comments to display characteristics of Christ like behavior. It pains me to read comments by someone professing to be a Christian behaving in such a manner. And now you accuse me of a form of falsehood as well. I have been praying for you that Christ would transform your spirit. It is one thing to be passionate in your beliefs; another entirely to make snide, mean-spirited, and either outright or bordering on slanderous comments. Please look to Ephesians 4 for how to speak or respond to those with whom you disagree. If those who oppose you anger you do not respond with incivility. Surely you can see that the love of Christ should temper our tongues. Regards, Karen Pritchard Mr. Wilson,
Slander is a malicious or false statement. You implied that Mrs. West was in need of Alcoholics Anonymous. That is indeed slanderous. Perhaps it does not meet the legal definition but it meets the common usage.

I’m sorry but I’m unsure how my comment is hypocritical or feigned. I realize you believe you are being humorous in a sarcastic fashion. It does not translate well. This is particularly true when in one area you accuse a person of public drunkenness and then later imply someone is in need of AA.

I honestly find little of your comments to display characteristics of Christ like behavior. It pains me to read comments by someone professing to be a Christian behaving in such a manner. And now you accuse me of a form of falsehood as well.

I have been praying for you that Christ would transform your spirit. It is one thing to be passionate in your beliefs; another entirely to make snide, mean-spirited, and either outright or bordering on slanderous comments. Please look to Ephesians 4 for how to speak or respond to those with whom you disagree. If those who oppose you anger you do not respond with incivility. Surely you can see that the love of Christ should temper our tongues.

Regards,
Karen Pritchard

]]> By: Charles W. Wilson http://www.arptalk.org/2011/10/08/the-meeting-of-the-anderson-chapter-of-the-erskine-alumni-association/#comment-6953 Charles W. Wilson Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:12:22 +0000 http://www.arptalk.org/?p=1544#comment-6953 Dear Ms. Karen Pritchard, Thank you for your Pecksniffian comment. You did it well. No, I haven’t written anything “slanderous.” Did I ridicule? Yes! Did I slander? No! You asked if I were aware of the serious nature of alcoholism. Oh, yes, indeed! More so than most! However, my sense of humor is not the least bit impeded by my knowledge. Cheers, Chuck Wilson ARPTalk Dear Ms. Karen Pritchard,

Thank you for your Pecksniffian comment. You did it well.

No, I haven’t written anything “slanderous.” Did I ridicule? Yes! Did I slander? No!

You asked if I were aware of the serious nature of alcoholism. Oh, yes, indeed! More so than most! However, my sense of humor is not the least bit impeded by my knowledge.

Cheers,

Chuck Wilson
ARPTalk

]]> By: Karen Pritchard http://www.arptalk.org/2011/10/08/the-meeting-of-the-anderson-chapter-of-the-erskine-alumni-association/#comment-6948 Karen Pritchard Tue, 01 Nov 2011 13:18:38 +0000 http://www.arptalk.org/?p=1544#comment-6948 Mr. Wilson, May I ask why when you are challenged in the comments section you resort to implying that the person is a drunkard? I am referring to your comment to Jennifer West "What are you drinking? May I suggest AA?". Do you not realize alcoholism is a serious problem and to indiscriminately accuse an individual of alcoholism is slanderous. Please ask yourself if this type of comment demonstrates the behaviors found in Galatians 5. You began this posting with a similar implication and agreed in the comments section (if I’ve read them correctly) that it was inappropriate. Yet here, once again, you return to a similar statement. Regards, Karen Pritchard Mr. Wilson,
May I ask why when you are challenged in the comments section you resort to implying that the person is a drunkard? I am referring to your comment to Jennifer West “What are you drinking? May I suggest AA?”. Do you not realize alcoholism is a serious problem and to indiscriminately accuse an individual of alcoholism is slanderous. Please ask yourself if this type of comment demonstrates the behaviors found in Galatians 5. You began this posting with a similar implication and agreed in the comments section (if I’ve read them correctly) that it was inappropriate. Yet here, once again, you return to a similar statement.

Regards,
Karen Pritchard

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